Retired Colonel Tells the Truth About Russia
As one comments said, you won’t be seeing MacGregor on FOX again any time soon. LOL
Col. MacGregor was on Trey Gowdy’s show and on Tucker Carlson. His transcript is below, but the links are to two commentaries:
After 3:40, Alex Christoforou comments and provides maps. Very informative.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqSWv9OynUg – 15 min
This next one is longer (38 min) with host Pete Santilli commenting. I don’t know who his co-host is.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/8wbFWq7Bj971/
Two things make this version especially worth a look:
1. Around 12 minutes in, Santilli comments on the Fox reportwhore who is brought in AFTER MacGregor to try to discredit him, and to get the lies and CIA talking points in.
2. At 26 min, Tucker Carlson ALSO had Col. MacGregor on. Even better than the interview with Gowdy.
GOWDY / MacGREGOR TRANSCRIPT
TG – Why do you think Putin is doing this? What is his end game?
DM – Well, Vladimir Putin is carrying through on something that he’s been warning us about at least for the last 15 years, which is that he will not tolerate US forces or their missiles on his borders, much as we would not tolerate Russian troops and missiles in Cuba.
And we ignored him, and he finally acted. He was not going to allow Ukraine, under any circumstances, to join NATO.
What’s happened now is that the battle in eastern Ukraine is really almost over. All the Ukrainian troops there have been largely surrounded and cut off. You have a concentration down in the southeast of 30 to 40,000 of them, and if they don’t surrender within the next 24 hours I suspect that the Russians will ultimately annihilate them.
That’s why Zelensky is meeting with Putin’s representatives right now. The game is over, and he’s going to have to negotiate the best deal he can get. And we’ve already told him the President of the United States says that, if he opts for neutrality for Ukraine, we’ll back him. And I think that Vladimir Putin will do that for western Ukraine, that is the Ukraine beyond the Dnieper River.
But behind it, in the east where he is now, I’m not sure what he has planned there? Whether he forms another republic, annexes it into Russia, because historically it has been Russian; but the territory west of Ukraine is not. He knows that and he’s happy to live with that as a neutral state.
TG – I am not a military expert. I’m not even an expert on geography, but if he takes Ukraine, and Ukraine abuts Poland, then he’s going to have a NATO country abutting him. So if that’s what he doesn’t want, then isn’t he going to just have to keep going until he runs out of NATO countries?
DM – I guess I should say it again. He has no interest in crossing the west, the Dnieper, and heading west to the Polish border. I think you’re going to find from these negotiations he’s quite willing to neutralize that territory on the Austrian or the Finnish model.
Right now Russia already touches Estonia and part of Latvia, White Russia of course touches Lithuania. He’s not interested in going to war with us, and he has an army that’s too small for that purpose, and he knows it. His economy is smaller than that of South Korea’s. So this is not something that he’s looking for. We are imputing to him things that he does not want to do, in our usual effort to demonize him and his country.
We need to remember that Ukraine is fourth from the bottom of 158 countries in the world as ‘corrupt’. Russia is perhaps three or four places above them. This is not the liberal democracy, the shining example, that everyone says it is. Far from it. Mr. Zelensky has jailed journalists and his political opposition.
I think we need to stay out of it. The American people think we should stay out of it. The Europeans think we should stay out of it, and we should stop shipping weapons and encouraging Ukrainians to die in what is a hopeless endeavor.
TG – So when you say ‘stay out of it’, you mean no sanctions, no military aid, just let Russia take the portion of Ukraine they want to take?
DM – Yes, absolutely. I see no reason why we should fight with the Russians over something that they have been talking about for years. We simply chose to ignore it. And, more important, the population there is indistinguishable from their own.
You know, the thing that’s so disturbing is that on the one hand we will not send our forces to fight, but we are urging Ukrainians to die pointlessly in a fight they can’t win. We’re going to create a far worse humanitarian disaster than anything you’ve seen thus far if it doesn’t stop.
